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iPhone 12 mini's iOS Message app doesn't always get MMS images from others like Android users.
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Ant
2024-06-23 21:51:56 UTC
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Hello,

iPhone 12 mini's iOS Message app doesn't always get MMS images from
others like Android users. However, VZW's Message+ iOS app always get
them. Both do get regular SMSes fast. How come and to fix this?

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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Chris
2024-06-24 06:53:32 UTC
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Post by Ant
Hello,
iPhone 12 mini's iOS Message app doesn't always get MMS images from
others like Android users. However, VZW's Message+ iOS app always get
them. Both do get regular SMSes fast. How come and to fix this?
SMS and MMS are not guaranteed to arrive. MMS is not really that well
supported either.

If you really want MMS check with your networks regarding support.

Alternatively, there are many other services which work reliably, however,
it does mean that you need to agree with your contracts which one to use.
Ant
2024-06-24 17:26:38 UTC
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Post by Chris
Post by Ant
Hello,
iPhone 12 mini's iOS Message app doesn't always get MMS images from
others like Android users. However, VZW's Message+ iOS app always get
them. Both do get regular SMSes fast. How come and to fix this?
SMS and MMS are not guaranteed to arrive. MMS is not really that well
supported either.
If you really want MMS check with your networks regarding support.
Alternatively, there are many other services which work reliably, however,
it does mean that you need to agree with your contracts which one to use.
Darn. Everyone has SMS and MMSes with their cell phones hence why
they're useful. :(
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Chris
2024-06-24 18:15:16 UTC
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Post by Ant
Post by Chris
Post by Ant
Hello,
iPhone 12 mini's iOS Message app doesn't always get MMS images from
others like Android users. However, VZW's Message+ iOS app always get
them. Both do get regular SMSes fast. How come and to fix this?
SMS and MMS are not guaranteed to arrive. MMS is not really that well
supported either.
If you really want MMS check with your networks regarding support.
Alternatively, there are many other services which work reliably, however,
it does mean that you need to agree with your contracts which one to use.
Darn. Everyone has SMS and MMSes with their cell phones hence why
they're useful. :(
Everyone? Not for MMS. It's been many, many years since I've seen an MMS.

MMS was (still is?) very expensive and never included in bundles. Like
you're experiencing it's not reliable.

Plus other issues which affect SMS as well.

Hence, MMS is not usable and why other solutions were found.
Alan Browne
2024-06-24 18:25:32 UTC
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Post by Ant
Post by Chris
Post by Ant
Hello,
iPhone 12 mini's iOS Message app doesn't always get MMS images from
others like Android users. However, VZW's Message+ iOS app always get
them. Both do get regular SMSes fast. How come and to fix this?
SMS and MMS are not guaranteed to arrive. MMS is not really that well
supported either.
If you really want MMS check with your networks regarding support.
Alternatively, there are many other services which work reliably, however,
it does mean that you need to agree with your contracts which one to use.
Darn. Everyone has SMS and MMSes with their cell phones hence why
they're useful. :(
Everyone? Not for MMS. It's been many, many years since I've seen an MMS.
MMS was (still is?) very expensive and never included in bundles. Like
you're experiencing it's not reliable.
Plus other issues which affect SMS as well.
Hence, MMS is not usable and why other solutions were found.
Depends on the market. No fees here with most plans that include data.

In my case, the provider will attempt to deliver every 15 minutes for up
to three days. So the chance of the MMS getting through are very high.
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Ant
2024-06-24 18:35:46 UTC
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Post by Ant
Hello,
iPhone 12 mini's iOS Message app doesn't always get MMS images from
others like Android users. However, VZW's Message+ iOS app always get
them. Both do get regular SMSes fast. How come and to fix this?
SMS and MMS are not guaranteed to arrive. MMS is not really that well
supported either.
If you really want MMS check with your networks regarding support.
Alternatively, there are many other services which work reliably, however,
it does mean that you need to agree with your contracts which one to use.
Darn. Everyone has SMS and MMSes with their cell phones hence why
they're useful. :(
Everyone? Not for MMS. It's been many, many years since I've seen an MMS.
MMS was (still is?) very expensive and never included in bundles. Like
you're experiencing it's not reliable.
Plus other issues which affect SMS as well.
Hence, MMS is not usable and why other solutions were found.
Depends on the market. No fees here with most plans that include data.
In my case, the provider will attempt to deliver every 15 minutes for up
to three days. So the chance of the MMS getting through are very high.
I also do notice once in while, MMSes come in late but I don't always
get all of them in iOS app. VZW's Message+ iOS app seem to get all of
them no matter what.
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Jörg Lorenz
2024-06-24 20:11:23 UTC
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Post by Ant
Darn. Everyone has SMS and MMSes with their cell phones hence why
they're useful. :(
They are second rate in terms of quality. Unrelible and very expensive
where they still exist.
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Alan Browne
2024-06-24 21:48:55 UTC
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Post by Ant
Darn. Everyone has SMS and MMSes with their cell phones hence why
they're useful. :(
They are second rate in terms of quality. Unrelible and very expensive
where they still exist.
Still exist here.
Very reliable.
No extra cost for those with a data plan.

Stop spouting off about things you are wholly ignorant about.
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Richard L. Hamilton
2024-08-05 20:05:32 UTC
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On the same carrier, SMS and MMS are a feature of the cellular network itself.

Between carriers, they travel via email gateways. When there are lots of events
going on that have people texting, those can be so overloaded that it takes
a day, day and a half, before the message is received.

MMS is more complex than SMS, so carrier support (and that of their
email gateway or the carrier one's recipient uses) might not be as good,
although as long as MMS has been around, I'm not sure I entirely buy that
explanation.

RCS is the newer approach, it goes over the Internet using cellular data.
Major carriers support it directly; minor carriers mostly don't yet. I think
Google Messages can do it regardless.

I suppose it might be that an Android sender's phone doesn't know you don't
have RCS support yet.

iOS 18 on iPhone will have RCS support (better experience communicating with
Android users), but not encryption, since that's not standardized yet.
Post by Ant
Hello,
iPhone 12 mini's iOS Message app doesn't always get MMS images from
others like Android users. However, VZW's Message+ iOS app always get
them. Both do get regular SMSes fast. How come and to fix this?
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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